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Post by spyderdriver on Apr 5, 2011 11:48:21 GMT -5
has anyone done it? im talking about the steel braided house for a toilet, or dishwasher (also called facet flex) it looks kinda like this  i want it to run from my oil pump, to my filter and my cooler, and to buy one for automotive use gets pretty expensive! i cut a piece of the rubber out and boiled it in oil it didn't get gummy and it needed over 400 degrees to melt it... so my question is has anyone tried to do this before? or do i get to be a guinea pig. |
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Post by jspbtown on Apr 5, 2011 11:56:08 GMT -5
Not made for it. it will break down and fill your engine with gunk. Your not going to save anything. 6 feet of proper braided hose is only $25.
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Post by spyderdriver on Apr 5, 2011 12:43:12 GMT -5
it will be more than that to get 1/4 inch with good ends, and then theirs S&H
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Post by jspbtown on Apr 5, 2011 14:11:34 GMT -5
Aren't you going to have to get different ends with the toilet line?
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Post by spyderdriver on Apr 5, 2011 14:47:30 GMT -5
kinda i can get some one that can screw on and they lock and they cost like 3$
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Post by smyrnaguy on Apr 5, 2011 16:00:38 GMT -5
But when you are done your oil lines will still look like toilet plumbing. That nylon nut is made to be tightened only slightly more than hand-tight, then the threads give way. Chances are you'll have to buy lengths that are a bit too long because you can't stretch it. Then how do you neaten up the excess? It's not worth doing half right. Buy the right lengths with the right fittings and don't look back. Its aggravating to wait the week or two it may take to cough up the cash and for the order to arrive but you won't regret it.
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Post by Gary Hammond on Apr 5, 2011 16:24:05 GMT -5
Hi Spyderdriver,  The toilet line belongs on the toilet!!! Not on a GT oil system!!!  Here's links to -6AN hose and fittings from summit racing. Good stuff, and well worth the cost. Install it and forget it! ;D  www.summitracing.com/parts/SUM-230603/www.summitracing.com/parts/SUM-220690/I used this for all my fuel lines and -8AN for all my oil lines. It works great, looks great, and won't let me down with a catastrophic failure and blown engine! ;D  Gary Hammond,   |
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Post by Gary Hammond on Apr 5, 2011 17:09:17 GMT -5
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Post by mrbigh on Apr 5, 2011 18:31:14 GMT -5
has anyone done it? im talking about the steel braided house for a toilet, it looks kinda like this were are you planning to hang the roll of paper?  ... to clean up the oil spill................. |
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Post by spyderdriver on Apr 5, 2011 19:49:09 GMT -5
okok, but i still want to do more testing
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Post by darrenz on Apr 9, 2011 22:45:14 GMT -5
Don't do it. I work on a lot of houses and seen burst and get brittle just from cold water.even seen the 3/4 hoses made for hot water tanks give out from heat. You are talking about the
Most important. Part of your motor. And I think inside diameter may be to small
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Post by mj on Apr 11, 2011 20:08:56 GMT -5
I, for one, appreciate your inventiveness and willingness to improvise.
In this particular case, the answer is NO. Don't do it. But thanks for being here with the Right Stuff attitude!
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Post by spyderdriver on Apr 12, 2011 1:44:01 GMT -5
I, for one, appreciate your inventiveness and willingness to improvise. In this particular case, the answer is NO. Don't do it. But thanks for being here with the Right Stuff attitude! well thank you, maybe ill use it on my 300cc v12 im making. |
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Post by spyderdriver on Apr 20, 2011 22:11:22 GMT -5
AH ha! i did more testing with a heat gun and an air compressor. i pored some oil in the house, (i had a cap on it) plugged in the air compressor and gave it 100 psi and heated it up to 200 degrees F, (in one spot only to stress it more) and i held beautifully. i don't think it will work for air cooled, because it gets too hot, but for a water cooled it think it would work great.
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Post by thehag71 on Apr 21, 2011 3:44:12 GMT -5
The main problem I see with using the toilet hose is what kind of rubber is the inner hose made out of? Some types of rubber break down when exposed to petroleum products. It doesn't happen immediately, but over time the rubber softens and swells and that could cause a loss of oil flow or leaks.
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Post by jspbtown on Apr 21, 2011 8:08:25 GMT -5
" It doesn't happen immediately, but over time the rubber softens and swells and that could cause a loss of oil flow or leaks.
Exactly.
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Post by rebel67 on Apr 21, 2011 12:19:53 GMT -5
Spyder, I too commend you for thinking outside the box, and Im sure we all like ideas that save money.
That being said, sometimes the money you save now will only be spent, with much more added, on fixing the "new" problems you cause yourself. Believe me, we all would like to get things quicker and cheaper, but this isnt a place to screw with. These guys are pretty smart, and my own experiances with building hydraulic hoses tells me you absolutely should keep the toilet functioning as a seperate tool and use the proper hoses for the car.
besides, as Mr. Big pointed out, the holder for the toilet paper really has no space in the engine compartment!
Keep thinking, you are on the right path!
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Post by spyderdriver on Apr 21, 2011 13:02:49 GMT -5
im gona use hydraulic line to run the oil.
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Post by pushnfords on Apr 25, 2011 19:17:35 GMT -5
Why not just use metal braided hydraulic hose? A lot of parts stores and the Deere dealer where i work build custom hoses...I'm just going to go that route. Custom length and they'll prob outlast the car.
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Post by spyderdriver on Apr 26, 2011 0:16:52 GMT -5
pricey.
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Post by thehag71 on Apr 26, 2011 4:47:30 GMT -5
pricey...maybe. Using an untested product on your engine...maybe pricey maybe not. I do applaud your thinking outside the box for frugality, but how about using copper or aluminum tubing and a couple of end fittings? Would look way better than rubber hoses anyday. The guys that build choppers use copper tubing for oil lines all the time and it looks great. Not too expensive either, but aluminum is probably cheaper. Polish the hell out of it and sit back and grin while the other guys drool over how awesome your oil lines look.
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Post by spyderdriver on Apr 26, 2011 12:00:40 GMT -5
im surprised, copper gets hard with vibrations and can crack, but you could use steel brake line.
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Post by pushnfords on Apr 26, 2011 18:08:25 GMT -5
For crimped end hydraulic hoses you are talking maybe $40. For hose barbs and slip on hose with clamps maybe $12. And this is to save an engine that can easily cost $1500 to replace? When I do plumbing work we ALWAYS replace the water supply hoses because they get old and crack with age with just 30psi of water running through them. |
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